[personal profile] binidj
It struck me recently, that only protest is ever really measured ... you never saw anyone demonstrating that the Gulf War was a good thing for example but the people saying it was a bad thing got loads of press because they were making a noise about it. This is fair enough, free speech is a good thing in my opinion but I've decided that the time has come to make a stand (however insignificant) to give assent and support to ideas which other people may be campaigning about.

If you feel as I do, please cut and paste this image ... if you could host it yourself that would be especially nice.



Now while I welcome discussion, I don't think that this is a good forum for it so if you want to discuss my politics at length I invite you to do so in person rather than here. Comments on the validity of positive assent however are welcomed (since I suspect that such a discussion will be less likely to be either as impassioned or as lengthy).

But it's not British!

Date: 2005-11-02 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caddyman.livejournal.com
Unless you are being ironic, I think that you are one of only three people I know who support ID cards. The other two are furriners and used to living under a controlling system based upon the Napoleonic Code.

Date: 2005-11-02 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatosuchus.livejournal.com
The trouble with "in person" is you're in Surrey and I'm in Wales. Nevertheless, I can see why you might not want your journal taken over by a likely emotive subject.

Date: 2005-11-02 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garethd.livejournal.com
I must admit I am in favour of ID cards, I think they will be a good thing. I do agree though that I am in the minority on this view. I hav eyet to hear anything to convinceme otherwise yet.

regards

Gareth

Date: 2005-11-02 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silks-ic.livejournal.com
If they succeed in making the country safer then brilliant
If they get rid of the need to send your birth certificate/passport off everytime you apply for something then brilliant
People say they'll cost too much money - I currently need to update my driving license and passport and it's going to cost me about £70 in all!
The only people that should lose out are criminals
So everyone's a winner

Yes and No.

Date: 2005-11-02 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larians.livejournal.com
I agree with the positive assent but disagree about ID cards for a number of reasons. Alas I can't think of an opportunity to discuss this with you because events are not really the time or the place, you really don't want to get into a political discussion with Rheinfelden! :)

Date: 2005-11-02 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woodbrook.livejournal.com
out of interest, can you get a similar one saying no? :)
Just to be fair n all with the eyecatching graphics :D

Date: 2005-11-02 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] invisible-al.livejournal.com
I disagree and I'm happy to take it up next time we meet. Meanwhile most of my arguments are summerized nicely here and here.

Date: 2005-11-02 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quintus.livejournal.com
Most of my objections are just backlash against the misadvertising of what the damned things are meant to do e.g. prevent terrorism (which they won't... they'd probably help trace stuff afterwards).

If political expression were not banned in my workplace, I'd have a bloody great 'pro-presumed consent' banner on my office wall though.

Date: 2005-11-02 02:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kathbad
I agree completely with your right to assent on this or any other subject, even though I disagree that there are valid reasons for the introduction of these ID card.

We should have a chat at some stage on both point.

Date: 2005-11-02 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bad-moon-rising.livejournal.com
We had them back home in the form of photo required drivers licenses and I thought they were useful rather than a problem.

Date: 2005-11-02 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] planegate.livejournal.com
I am pro the idea of ID Cards too, but i think alot of ppl are worried by the inofrmation to go on them.

Date: 2005-11-02 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scary-lady.livejournal.com
I am pro ID card in principle, but only if they take genuine steps to make forgery prohibitively difficult. Otherwise what have we gained?

Date: 2005-11-02 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jayphoenix.livejournal.com
Well said you!

I agree that ID cards (in principle) are a very good thing indeed and do nothing to limit our personal freedoms. I grew up in Holland and Belgium, though, where ID is something normal :)

Will do what you ask and post this myself.

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